Kibbe: Soft Classic Style Guide
You’ve tried to find your style and copy trends, but after countless failed outfits, and an extremely high credit card bill, you accept fashion just isn’t for you. But then, you stumble upon Kibbe.
Now you’ve accessed your yin/yang balance, had a crash course in Kibbe terminology, and finally see the light at the end of the tunnel when you wear those beautiful soft classic style lines.
So, now what?
The goal of the Kibbe Image Identity system is to find your body’s yin/yang balance and harmonize your clothes WITH your body, instead of against.
It can be an incredibly eye-opening process where you begin to train your eye to see what garments make you shine, and what trends or looks might overwhelm or overshadow your unique beauty.
Now, if you’re not far along in your Kibbe adventure, I recommend starting here. It will provide a general overview and the beginning steps to take in this style exploration.
It is important to note that exploring and landing on a kibbe ID is recommended to be a 6+ month process. It is meant to be a journey of self-exploration and personal growth. So you must learn the terminology, understand the goals of the system, and then apply and understand them to your own style and body.
The knowledge you gain from the system can be incredibly helpful and be an asset to developing your personal style, but you can’t rush the process or force yourself into an ID. Just because you love the name “theatrical romantic” doesn’t mean you are in fact one.
But, before we deep dive, let’s go over the Soft Classic ID to make sure you are in the right place.
What is the Soft Classic Kibbe ID?
The Soft Classic ID is one of the original 13 Kibbe Body Types and it is part of the Classic Family.
The Classic family is known for its moderation, balance, and blended characteristics.
The Classic family consisted of three IDs: The Dramatic Classic, the Pure Classic, and the Soft Classic.
David Kibbe has since removed the Pure Classic, stating that nobody has perfectly balanced yin/yang so that will lead them to lean either towards dramatic classic (a bit more yang), or soft classic (a bit more yin).
You will hear the term “accommodations” used in the Kibbe world. It simply means what your body’s most dominant trait is, and what therefore needs to be taken into consideration when evaluating silhouettes, styling techniques, and your overall outfits head-to-toe.
Soft Classics need to accommodate their balance/moderation and their slight curve. Remember it is all about harmonizing your clothes WITH your body, so essentially we are looking for clothing styles that also have moderation and allow for slight curve.
Soft Classic ID Overview
Please note that these are general guidelines and just a starting point for exploring your ID. If one trait doesn’t match, that doesn’t exclude this ID as an option, as long as that trait doesn’t disrupt the overall yin/yang balance. For instance, your height being that “one trait” would disrupt your overall yin/yang balance and if you were extremely tall, you would not be part of the classic family.
Also, when evaluating your body’s physical characteristics remember that these traits and proportions are only in comparison to your own body and not others. So trying to compare yourself to a verified celeb or your neighbor will not lead to ID clarity.
Soft Classic Celebrities (verified)
Here is a list of verified Soft Classic celebrities.
- Veronica Lake
- Naomi Watts
- Norma Shearer
- Olivia de Havilland
- Meryl Streep
- Meredith Baxter Birney
- Marion Cotillard
- Laura Linney
- Kirsten Dunst
- Joan Fontaine
- Emma Thompson
- Donna Reed
- Denne Benton
- Constance Bennet
- Catherine Oxenberg
- Carolina Herrera
- Barbara Waters
- Grace Kelly (reassigned from Pure Classic after it was removed)
- Lee Remick (reassigned from Pure Classic after it was removed)
- Catherine Deneuve (reassigned from Pure Classic after it was removed)
Suspected Soft Classics (unverified but suspected)
- Sienna Miller
- Dianna Agron
- Lupita Nyong’o
- Dakota Johnson
Please note: There is a lot of misinformation on Kibbe and verified celebs out there. I myself have shared my typing opinions on unverified celebs on TikTok, however, I do not claim to be David Kibbe or officially type anyone. And celebs are not really meant to be data points or comparison points. They are just examples of how yin/yang can be spread within an ID. Just because you look mildly close to a celeb who is verified, does not mean you share the same Kibbe ID.
Soft Classic Physical Profile
The Soft Classic will have the following characteristics:
Height: Moderate, up to 5 ft 6 inches tall. Above that height and you have added a yang element to the mix and will lean more towards Dramatic Classic if you have moderation/balance.
Bone Structure:
The Soft Classic has the following bone structure traits;
- Symmetrical body shape with slightly soft or rounded edges
- Straight and slightly delicate
- They can be small and slightly wide but with softer edges, not square. They do not have “kibbe width”
- Shoulders can have a slightly sloped or tapered appearance
- Their facial bones and contours are slightly small and can appear slightly wide, which can be seen in the nose, cheekbones, and jawline
- Their hands and feet tend to be moderate, small, and can appear a bit wider
REMEMBER: Please do not obsess over any one trait you have if they do not line up. These are just possibilities and ultimately you need to look at your body holistically and see the overall yin/yang balance, not one individual trait.
Soft Classic Body Type
- Soft classics tend to be slightly rounded
- Slight fleshiness
- Evenly proportioned through the bust, waist, hip
- Can be slightly short-waisted
- Arms and legs tend to be moderate in length compared to other proportions but can also be slightly shorter
Soft Classic Facial Features
- Fleshy face
- Slightly full and soft
- Larger eyes
- Soft cheeks
- Can have fuller lips
- Symmetrical, evenly spaced features
A Soft Classic will not have:
- Large bone structure
- Angular bone structure
- A naturally muscular look
- Have a “true” hourglass shape with a waspish waist
- Be tall (over 5 ft 6 in)
- Be extremely petit or small-boned
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Soft Classic Weight Gain Pattern
You can find my full article on kibbe weight gain patterns including plus to mid-size examples here.
Please be aware that you cannot type yourself on weight-gain pattern alone. It is merely one clue.
When Soft Classics gain weight their bodies tend to become very soft and their facial features tend to get a fleshy look.
The waist is often the first to lose definition, and it can look a bit thicker.
Here’s a plus-size Soft Classic example:
Soft Classic Coloring
Soft Classics can technically have any coloring (warm or cool toned), but they can lean towards having blended or low contrast coloring. If they have high contrast coloring there will still be a delicateness to their overall aesthetic as opposed to sharpness.
Personally, I favor finding your own seasonal color analysis over following any Kibbe ID’s color guidelines. This will create a more personal approach to the style guidelines and take into consideration your unique blend. If you’d like to see how I personally combine Kibbe IDs, with essences, and your seasonal color palette, you can check out that video here.
Are you a Soft Classic?
The best way to start evaluating your Kibbe ID is with a proper ID photo and the line exercise. You can find the full list of extensive exercises in the Strictly Kibbe Facebook group, here. You will need to request access, and while I love hearing David Kibbe’s direct advice, the group culture may not be for everyone.
But here is a general overview. Take a full-length photo from chest length (this is important for distortion). If you are above 5 ft 6, as per Kibbe himself, you won’t be in the Soft Classic family because your height would be automatic yang and throw off that balance. If you think you still fit the classic family, check out Dramatic Classic, here.
Using your full-length photo, being to see the shapes and balance your body makes. You can use the markup feature on your iPhone photos, or procreate to draw the shapes your body creates. You’ll want to generally outline your shoulders to your knees.
Now, I don’t have a perfect “ID” photo for Marion Cotillard below, but that photo was the best I could find for demonstrative purposes.
You can see in my photo (I’m a Flamboyant Natural), that my shoulders and length are immediately visible. This throws off the yin/yang balance so I would not be in the classic family. Now look at Marion Cotillard’s photo and you don’t immediately notice any one physical trait. There is a balance to her body and a slight curve. She’s actually a touch taller than I am, but she looks way less frame dominant.
You can also see I’m wearing a more Soft Classic style dress. This just emphasizes any ID can wear any clothing, it will just look different on each ID.
Soft Classic Style Lines
The Soft Classic is referred to as a “Graceful Lady”. But before we deep dive into the original recommendations for the SC, I want to talk about the evolution of Kibbe’s system and how it has been modernized.
Since the initial book was released, Kibbe has improved his approach and addressed the complaints that people might feel “boxed-in” by the overall recommendations or style ID adjectives. Any ID, however, may wear any piece of clothing as long as they keep their head-to-toe ensemble in mind. They have to keep in mind how each ensemble harmonizes with their body and pay attention to their distinct dominant characteristics. In the case of the Soft Classic that would be accommodating balance/moderation and curve.
I have a video that generally goes over applying trends or unique styles to each kibbe family, and it can help further clarify the concept of the head-to-toe look, here.
However, understanding these initially recommended pieces and the overview of the Soft Classic style guidelines is incredibly important as well. Think of this process as similar to learning a new cooking recipe. The first time you bake chocolate chip cookies you need an ingredient list and step-by-step instructions. After a while, you learn how to adjust the flavor profiles, tweak the ingredients, and adjust them to your own liking. But you need that base recipe first before you start experimenting for the most successful cookie evolution.
So review these base suggestions and try to see WHY they are being suggested. They are not boxes keeping you from your true style. They are a stepping stool helping you get to your own style ladder. ( I know, I went with one too many analogies).
The silhouette guidelines for the Soft Classic include smooth, draped pieces with softly flowing lines. We want these lines to be clean, not clingy. They often have a controlled shape and symmetrical quality.
It is crucial to consider soft-shaped garments with smooth, rounded edges. We can see this in the details of a garment like the necklines and sleeves.
The Soft Classics avoid fussy or overly ornate pieces as that can overwhelm their delicate balance and symmetry.
You are a classic first and foremost and your romantic undercurrent should be used very sparingly. We are shooting for refined sophistication and not overtly glamorous. And on the flip side, we don’t want too much structure, tailoring, or sharpness in garments either, that would lean more towards the Dramatic Classic.
The Soft Classic does smooth, soft pieces that have a balanced look to them. Honor the symmetry, moderation, and gentle curve of your body, and try to harmonize your clothes to those accommodations.
NOTE: Please keep in mind that there will be some “avoids” in each category. Please take each “avoid” suggestion with a grain of salt. The idea of wearing a head-to-toe outfit is essential, and some individuals’ bodies may be able to wear certain pieces more easily than others. It’s still a personal journey and will benefit from personal exploration.
How to dress the Soft Classic: Style Guide
Yin/Yang Balance: Balanced yin/yang, with a yin influence
Soft Classic Shape
When we refer to the shape of the garment we are exploring the general outline, emphasis points, or full silhouette of the garment and/or outfit.
Some IDs have a very clear shape goal- the Dramatic Classics aim for an inverted triangle shape within their outfit’s outline. The Soft Classic aims for soft, curved shapes that have rounded or delicate edges. They are focusing more on circular, oval, or swirling shapes. Nothing that has sharp edges or straight clean lines.
Soft Classic Line and Silhouette
The Soft Classic looks beautiful and refined in smooth, symmetrical silhouettes that have soft edges and some shaping to them. Clean lines that are unbroken, gently flowing lines, and soft waist emphasis are all great attributes for the SC. They can also play around with smooth horizontal or diagonal draping.
Avoid: Hard-edged silhouettes, geometric silhouettes, angular pieces, overly ornate or intricate silhouettes, wide or unconstructed looks, straight silhouettes with no shaping or flow, overly crisp pieces, or fitted silhouettes with staccato edges
Soft Classic Fabric
So, fabric is a huge component of the Kibbe system, in my opinion. And honestly, I don’t think enough people are talking about it.
The goal of the Kibbe system is to feel in harmony with your clothing and mimic your body’s natural properties to your clothes.
So fabric weight and structure can drastically affect this.
If you are a Soft Classic and you are using heaving, sharply tailored pieces it is going to hide your beautiful symmetry and overwhelm or inhibit the gently rounded shapes your body is made up of.
Therefore just like you are moderate and soft, your fabrics should also be of light to moderate weights. And they should drape easily or flow along your body’s natural curve. (not clingy!)
The finish of the fabrics should honor your balance and moderation, which makes slightly matte or slightly sheen fabrics good options. Soft, luxurious textiles like silks, cashmere, crepe, velvet, raw silk, or hanker-chief linen all work well.
You want soft texture and weight, high quality, without leaning too yang or yin with the overall fabric.
Any knits or woven fabrics should be light and drape-able without being overly clingy.
Avoid: Heavy or stiff fabrics, Rough or thick textures, bulky fabrics or knits, overly shiny fabrics like patent leathers, or overly dull fabrics
Soft Classic Detail
We want to emphasize our classic roots and add the smallest amount of romance as an afterthought to honor your romantic undercurrent.
Clean, soft necklines are a great place to start. They honor the SC’s delicate moderation and the yin undercurrent. Draped necklines or cowls are a great choice. Jewel necklines and scoop necklines also accomplish this.
You’ll also want to seek out silhouettes that have a clean waistline or soft waist emphasis and tapered sleeves.
In order to keep the SC moderation in mind, you’ll want to generally avoid sharply tailored details, oversized details, frilly or ornate details, or playful details. This isn’t to take the fun out of your wardrobe, but the goal is not to overwhelm your soft balance. And if you’re aghast at this suggestion, try adding any “avoid” details farther away from your face.
Soft Classic Separates
Obviously, the fashion of today employs a lot of separates, so how do they work for the Soft Classic? Kibbe suggests using them sparingly and with an ensemble approach or a “well-matched” look.
You want the colors, textures, and elements to feel harmonious with one another and not have a staccato or sharp look to them.
Soft Classic Jackets
Soft Classics do need to take into consideration of the cut of their jackets and make sure that they have soft shaping to them, and gently highlight the waist. We are not aiming for strong waist emphasis like a peplum jacket, but more a tailored look that allows the waist to be visible.
In terms of length, you will want to go with a short to moderate length most often. If you opt for a longer hem jacket, a belt around the waist can help you accomplish your curve accommodation.
We want subdued or elegant details and stylings within the jacket.
Avoid: Fussy or overdone style elements, sharp-edged tailoring, boxy jackets or overly loose silhouettes, overly cropped jackets, and any excess trim.
Soft Classic Skirts
Skirts are a great way to gently show off your curves, and you’ll want to aim for skirts that have a soft, smooth, and gentle flow to their silhouette.
Lighter-weight fabrics will help accomplish this. And in terms of silhouette, you should look for A-line (soft fabric), flared skirts with uneven hemlines ( to create some visual movement), soft straight skirts, and you can even try bias skirts as well.
Waist detail should be more minimal but allow for shaping; you could look for soft gathers or soft pleats.
Your hems should generally be knee length and above. Midi skirts will start to overwhelm your frame. However, remember these are just guidelines and the best way is to try these styles, take a photo, and evaluate the garment on your proportions.
Avoid: Maxi skirts, long or straight skirts, wide or heavy skirts, overly shaped or clingy skirts, and extremely flouncy skirts.
Soft Classic Pants
Kibbe style suggestions don’t have to be as complicated as you think when you initially start diving into your ID.
Soft Classic pants should be softly tailored ( to harmonize with your balance and slight yin influence).
If you want some more exact silhouette details you can look for soft pleats, soft gathers, and a slightly tapered leg. And a hem that hits just above your ankle. The classic family is balanced, so we want to avoid any extreme detail, focal points, or silhouettes that deviate from the body dramatically.
Avoid: Pants that have sharp edges, heavy fabrics, wide or unconstructed styles, baggy styles, or any excessive trim or detail that pulls focus or throws the balance of the outfit off
Soft Classic Jeans
I have a video here with an overview of my interpretations of jeans for each Kibbe ID.
Because jeans have evolved a lot since the 80s, and so have style expectations, jeans are most likely a staple in your wardrobe.
Jeans for the Soft Classic should accommodate your balance and curves. Skinny jeans that hit at the ankle and that don’t have a lot of detail or wear marks are best.
You could also try more fitted mom jeans that have some more fitting through the waist so that your curve is not lost. A baggier mom jean might be more applicable to the soft natural, so be sure to try on the jeans and snap a pic to verify it isn’t disrupting your balance or too loose.
Pure washes that don’t have wear, whisker marks, or holes are easiest for the SC. And jeans that don’t feel heavy or too long will be easiest to integrate into your wardrobe.
Soft Classic Blouses
Soft classics have an elegance about them, and their blouses usually exemplify this. They are soft and smooth and made of lighter-weight fabrics. We want softer fabrics so that they drape nicely over your curves (yin influence).
Soft edges are best.
When it comes to necklines you can add soft crew necklines, draped necklines, soft bows, or even a soft jabot. You can have a delicate lace trim in your blouse neckline or details, just nothing too over the top.
For trim, you want to look for more subdued elegance, like delicate applique, shirring or gathering, and some beading.
Fabrics should be lightweight, which helps accomplish those soft edges we were talking about before. Silk fabrics or lightweight fabrics with a luxurious texture or soft sheen are perfect.
Soft Classic Sweaters
Soft classics do very well with soft and light sweaters that have a luxurious feel. Cashmere, angoras, and silk weaves are fantastic.
We want the sweaters to generally “feel” soft and smooth. Lighter weights can accomplish this, and if you opt for a heavier sweater make sure the texture is soft and not “rough” or bulky.
Avoid: Bulk, rough, or oversized sweaters, perky patterns, or overly playful details.
Soft Classic Dresses
I hope all of this is starting to click, but if it’s not just leave a comment below. And if you have a different personal style that doesn’t mesh with the “graceful lady” that SC exudes, comment below and we can help workshop and bridge them.
Dresses for the Soft Classic are most often described as graceful. You want dresses that are soft, smooth and have soft waist definition. Draped dresses are an excellent choice. As are dresses that have a flared shape with waist definition.
Soft wrap dresses, soft a-line shapes, and easygoing summer dresses with soft waist definition all work perfectly.
Avoid: Overly tailored dresses ( a lot of sharp seaming, or heavier weight fabrics), wide/billowy/unconstructed styles), or overly fussy dresses.
Soft Classic Use of Color
Soft Classics are recommended to use a blended approach to their wardrobe color palette and make sure there is a harmonious, ensemble look to the colors. They often work well with pastels, soft monochrome or tonal, light neutrals, and moderate brights.
When he says “soft monochrome”, he essentially means tonal instead of all one color. You can opt for light/bright combinations as well. And if you use a lot of darker colors they should be lightened up with texture or brighter additional pieces.
Please take this section with a grain of salt. Your seasonal color or preference on how to use color is more important than only abiding by these color suggestions. If you are deep autumn, you can use the blended approach with simply darker colors. These are just general guidelines or one tool to apply, and ultimately YOUR unique qualities and coloring should come first.
Soft Classic Prints
Soft classic prints that have soft edges are best. Watercolor, abstract, or prints that have movement are perfect.
If you go for a more traditional stripe or plaid, just make sure there isn’t too much contrast between the colors.
I personally think moderate floral patterns work beautifully for the SC.
Avoid: Sharp prints, overly playful or cute prints, and anything too small.
Soft Classic Accessories
For accessories, you want to aim for clean, elegant shapes with some detail to them.
Soft Classic Shoes
- Tapered Shapes
- Delicate visual look
- Narrow shape/heel/toe
- Can have a “bare” or slingback look
- Delicate, feminine flats
NOTE: Please don’t go crazy trying to find pieces that fit “every” guideline. Take these suggestions as a starting point, try them on, and evaluate your head-to-toe look and how the clothes look on YOUR body, and if they represent YOU. Don’t lose yourself in this process, it is more about harmonizing your clothes with your body than checking off style boxes.
Soft Classic Belts
- Narrow to moderate width
- Elegant
- Can have an ornate buckle, as long as it’s not too over the top
- Fine texture, leathers, fabrics
Soft Classic Bags
- Small to moderate in size ( although if you have to go larger for lifestyle needs, just keep the silhouette clean and simple)
- Rounded shapes work well with some trim
- Clutches or crossbody bags
- Fine leather
Soft Classic Jewelry
For jewelry, you don’t want anything that draws too much focus. It should be clean, elegant, delicate, and sophisticated.
Rouned shapes work well, as do slightly ornate (not over the top) shapes, and symmetrical shapes.
You can opt for a slightly antique feel as well.
Soft Classic Hair
Hair can really impact your overall look. So if you’re not vibing with the following suggestions, consider taking your Kitchener Essence into consideration.
SC hair should be soft, controlled, and smooth. Curls, waves, and gentle soft shapes are best as long as they aren’t overly teased or done up. Blunt cuts or gentle layering is the easiest style to start with.
In terms of length, moderate-to-long lengths are usually the most harmonious. But if you have long hair, more “styling” may need to be applied to create the polished look we are aiming for.
Kibbe highly recommends avoiding an unkept or loosely natural look that is uncontrolled. I think this recommendation is a sign of the times he wrote it. Natural hair looks have come a long way in popularity, so just keep it more towards the controlled natural side and it will be great.
Avoid: Severe cuts, geometric cuts, overly layered hair, overly teased looks, or cropped cuts.
Soft Classic Makeup
Makeup can have a big impact on your overall head-to-toe look, so don’t forget to consider where you are going in this outfit.
Elegant, polished makeup is perfect. You don’t want anything too geometric, harsh, or bright. Softly blended eyeshadows and blushes are perfect. In terms of the color contrast, you should look for soft to bright shades depending on your complexion. (nothing overly saturated or sharp).
Rosy cheeks, slightly glossed lips, and even a bit of sparkle around the eyes all work.
Avoid: Heavy contouring (especially if it looks unnatural), smoky colors, sharp or overly bold eyeliner lines or shadows, and the “no makeup” look.
Soft Classic Outfit Ideas
Here are a couple of outfit ideas to get you started. No outfit will ever hit “every” kibbe guideline, and that should not be the focus. It’s about accommodating your dominant features- balance and curve and feeling good in your clothes.
So if you don’t resonate with these outfits, that’s ok. This is just a starting point to visually see what is meant by the SC style suggestions.
Jeans that taper and fit your curves, a perfect soft classic elegant blouse, and classic accessories for an easy casual SC outfit.
This is a great semi-formal or wedding guest outfit for a Soft Classic. Just be sure to watch the midi length if you are slightly shorter (you may need to hem it a bit to be more knee length). This dress could also be made more casual with flat sandals, and a simple tote bag for summer or spring weekend outings.
And to ensure all sizes feel like they are represented and that these SC guidelines can work for all bodies, here are some plus size outfit examples for the soft classic.
Be sure to tuck in the blouse for light waist emphasis in this look. The classic blouse with skinny jeans and matching accessories provides a chic and casual look.
Not going to lie, Betty Draper is a great inspiration for SC, especially when it comes to your hair. This outfit has a classic feel, and polished look, and honors your slightly rounded edges. This would be great for dinner out or attending a wedding.
This is a great polished, SC outfit that has plus sizes available. Just be sure to try on the skirt before you purchase/keep it as the length could be a touch long for your unique proportions.
Shopping for Soft Classic Pieces
Here are a few questions to double-check if the piece will work for a soft classic.
- How soft is the fabric? (Soft, visually light)
- Does the piece have soft tailoring or shaping? (Yes)
- Does the shape of the garment allow for soft waist emphasis? (Or allow for a french tuck or tuck to enable waist emphasis?) (Yes)
- Does the garment have any overwhelming design elements that immediately draw your focus? (No)
- Is it cut so that your curves are “accommodated”? Look at the shape of the hips for a curved line, gathers, pleats, or anything that allows your hips to breathe. Similarly, look through the torso to the waist for the same general curve shaping.
- If it has a print, is the print subtle and elegant or over the top and bold? (Generally, we are shooting for more subtle ones).
- Is anything over the top, glitzy or flashy? (No)
- Do you like the garment itself? ( NEVER just dress for Kibbe guidelines, you are the most important aspect of your style and David Kibbe doesn’t want to box you in)
Then it looks like it could be a good fit!
Soft classics have a beautiful, mesmerizing balance about them. But don’t get bogged down if your style doesn’t lean “classic”. Remember, any style aesthetic can accommodate your SC needs- which are balance and moderation. Check out this video to see how these elements can be combined.
Now, if you’re still unsure whether Soft Classic is right for you, be patient. Trying the style lines, and understanding kibbe terminology can take time. Check out the style lines for all the IDs, here to get a better visual understanding or starting point.
And if this has cemented your SC ID, congrats! Now go enjoy your beautiful classic softness.
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I think this is wonderful. Would like to see some plus sizes examples added to the articles, otherwise it seems like a skinny girl lifestyle rather than an everyone lifestyle. I find myself thinking “when I lose weight I’ll come back to this. Regardless of whether I need to lose weight or not, I shouldn’t have to think it isn’t doable with my body. I love your content though. I’ve perused through many of your articles.
Hi! I’m so sorry for my oversight in being more size inclusive. I’ve gone ahead and added some plus-size outfit examples and photos. Hope this helps and I hope you feel more able to wear the SC lines at any size.
Hi Gabrielle! This was very thorough, thank you!
I’m pretty sure I’m SC but am a bit overweight right now and feel like a box. lol. At 5’5″ with moderate/shortish limbs when I gain weight I get wide and then can’t find anything I enjoy wearing. harumph!
Thanks to your proportions video I am now focusing on visually lengthening my legs by wearing high waisted pants and cropped tops, lower necklines. But because I am more square now I’ve actually started embracing dressing more columnar and trying to define my waist less.
All that to say, ideas for Soft Classic casual or even artsy outfits would be epic!!
I think you absolutely nailed this! It all makes more sense why I tend to gravitate towards certain items or feel best in them. Made my day, and I feel seen.
I’m so glad to hear that, and thank you!
Every time I take the test (I look at pictures of myself to ensure accurate results) I score Soft Classic. Literally everything about my body/face lines up with the Soft Classic type. However, I am 5’8”. I looked into the soft dramatic type features and I don’t have many of them except for the fact that I’m tall. How is this possible?
The test isn’t always an accurate way to determine your ID. At your height you have vertical, which would throw off the balance in the soft classic. I wouldn’t overly focus on the SD face or traits. They simply accommodate vertical and curver (whereas Soft Classics accommodate balance and curve). I’d explore SD with a more open perspective- you don’t have to go full glamour with it. HOpe this helps!
This is such a helpful and all-in-one guide! Thank you so much! Would love some outfit ideas for a more edgy or even masculine style (closer to your 2nd SC look on the menswear video). I’m non-binary and don’t always vibe with the very feminine SC looks that are suggested (yours are great ofc!, the closest one I vibe with is the semiformal one with blue pants and white sweater). Is it also possible to have short hair for SC in some way? I often see it listed in the “avoid”, but was wondering if you had any suggestion of specific cuts that could work (maybe some that could include bangs cuz I have a massive forehead).
I will try to add this! I think looking at some softer menswear styles throughout time might help as well. Menswear cuts that are in a softer fabric could still harmonize with your moderation/curve without appearing overly feminine. In terms of shorter hair, absolutely. I would just try to make it softer in shape and not too playful. This is kind of a random reference but I’m watching Felicity and I definitely think Keri Russel is a Soft Classic. She cuts her hair in season 2, I guess it was a kind of infamous moment and the cut is very spikey, playful, almost gamine esque and it really overshadows her balance. But Naomi Watts looks fantastic in a bob cut, and i think a softer pixie cut could even work. I would just make sure it’s soft, rounded and not too extreme if you want to match your kibbe ID. But, you could also create a juxtaposed look by purposefully picking a more funky or playful look that technically clashes with your ID but brings impact. That’s kind of a personal choice in how you want to style yourself.
@Gabrielle Arruda, Thank you so much!! I’ll look into all those references 🙂
This is so thorough! Unfortunately I’m a soft classic who loves glitzy, glam, over the top things (one of my favourite dresses is sequins AND feathers). Am I doomed?!
Not at all! I think there is always a way to balance out an outfit. I was just giving very, very general guidelines. You might want to explore your essence as well- that could help mix the two! https://gabriellearruda.com/the-7-style-essences-explained/
Thanks for writing this. I’ve always thought that I was a SN due to my saddle bags (I’m overweight but definitely losing 🙂 ) but your quiz made me a SC. My numbers came out as 2/3 C and 1/3 D with the D’s on the fleshy questions. I always did prefer the more monochromatic look of the classic so I’m happy to change. I live in denim as I have a uniform for work and like the casual style that is so different. My biggest bugbear is finding a jacket that works with my short waist. So far I’ve compensated with an open shirt. The kimono style jacket makes me look boxy and I don’t like the blazer style. Any suggestions?
Very creative and thorough content. Can’t wait to read about Flamboyant Gamine!
This is so helpful! I especially like the shopping question list! I have been told I am SC and am trying it out, but unsure if that fits. As a plus size person who has always been plus size I feel like it’s hard to tell how my bone structure truly is and if I am actually “soft” or just overweight! The SC description fits okay, however the DC description generally fits a tad closer. (Moderate-long arms and legs, long narrow feet, short torso and narrow shoulders, defined waist even with weight gain, weight gain gives me a pear shape and the smaller I am the more balanced my figure is). I’m 5’5” so my height has me right in the middle of any height limits. I feel like when someone just looks at me however I look more SC. Someday I will figure it out!
When you’ve narrowed it down to at least the family and you’re deciding between SC and DC i find trying the style lines and testing the accommodations to be a good way to hone your own authentic style. I think kibbe is a starting point to help you see how clothes work with your body, and why something works or looks off. So you may find borrowing or testing from both DC and SC would help. I’m glad you’ve found it helpful, though!
Thank you! As someone just diving into the Kibbe concept, this was enormously helpful — and cemented my belief that I almost certainly fit that type, but will have to balance it with enjoying some bolder colors and patterns, too.
Super helpful, thank you for taking the time to put this together.
You’re so welcome!
I have been watching your kibbe videos and found them the most helpful in my ID journey. So, thank you. Question, can an apple be a SC? I’ve been following the fruit system for years until I learned of Kibbe, etc. And SC to “do and to avoid” comparisons nailed it for me perfectly. And was so liberating I almost wept. I am 52 and recall all those years with girlfriends and shopping and going out…I wanted personal style. And everything was just “too.” Too much eyeliner, too much bulk in sweaters, too much fabric, too thick in the shirt material or jacket, too loose or too crisp. And don’t get me started on the French classic white crisp shirt EVERYONE should own…even at my skinniest I couldn’t pull it off…too crisp/structured. Your example of of other white shirt with a soft shoulder seam/ hemline just cinched it all and made me click on your videos.I thought I was just not finding a “style” and never realized the style was just being basic classic with only a touch of those other styles. In my kibbe journey, I originally thought I was a SN…more based on my apple journey influence. But I was not happy with too much loose or lax clothing when I went looking and trying on in stores.
Okay, the above was my Hallmark card tribute because your helped me finally nail down my primary kibbe…even if I am wrong and SC is my secondary…based on do and don’t advice…I prefer the SC fabrics and such. Anxiety seriously dropped. But now, I have a request. Many SC suggestions are great for most city or town situations. But I am lost when it comes to more outdoorsy situations. Like hanging out and living near Yellowstone NP type places, slightly more rugged towns in WY, ID, MT and CO. The online examples of “elegance” in SC attire leave me clueless. Any suggestions to find a suitable look or merchant? And I had my HOC done, I am a Summer, with pastels as my wow factor. 5’6. 2X tops so plus size. Strong plaids, super puffy Vests and super thick sweaters seem to be the norm and I just can’t even. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
I wouldn’t try to compare your fruit body type to your kibbe type- there’s very little if any overlap. Fruit system can have a secondary type and is based on measurements. Kibbe is about the line your body creates. I’ll try to add something more “outdoorsy” in this post. But I would look at fabric and clean silhouettes. Slimmer fits that don’t go too boxy, and softer fabrics. Ultimately your head to toe will still be the most important, making sure there is a relationship between all your pieces and that no individual piece pulls too much focus. Ponte pants can have stretch to wear outdoors and still have a clean look- you could try a fitted mid rise ponte pant that tapers at the ankle and pair it with a clean crew neck t-shirt and fitted layering piece. Ultimately you’ll just want to avoid going to large with any of your pieces or baggy.
@Laura, your whole thing is me *exactly*.A bit heavy. Apple shape. Soft classic. Soft summer. Everything looking “too” much… I have outdoorsy natural essence, tried Soft Natural lines but find SN too wide and baggy and chunky looking.
Now I’m trying to put all this into one wardrobe. No wonder it’s a lifelong journey. At least we are lucky to live in a time of choices.
I’m a little too tall to officially be SC and I think the height guidance should not be taken rigidly — especially since we know over time people are getting taller!
Gabrielle your visual guides are the best out there. I’ve been interested in this stuff since Color Me Beautiful in the 80s. I have never seen such a thorough and body positive guide for the Apple. You are killing it. Thank you.
Do you have any tips for winter wear? I’m fairly sure I’m a SC and the thinner fabrics and flowy sweaters of the SC look best on me but often leave me freezing! But bulkier, warmer sweaters or layers drown my frame. And finding coats that are truly warm but don’t completely hide my very modest curves and swallow me whole is next to impossible. Any advice?
For coats, I think it’s ok to go a bit more tailored as long as it has some waist definition (because it’s a heavier piece that softness SCs shoot for may be difficult to find). A coat that is tailored for waist definition will help even if it’s heavier (meaning the seaming/structure of the garment goes in towards the waist). For sweaters I would look into merino wool or cashmere ( lol). It’ll be more about finding lighter wools that are still warm instead of rough or chunky knits that might lean a bit more towards SN.
Thank you Gabrielle! It’s so detailed and helpful. I actually don’t realize that I’ve been following these tips for such a long time!
That’s great, means you have a great eye for your body/style harmonies!
Hi! I need some help interrupting my results. I’m 5’3. From the quiz it looks like I can be either DC or SG. If face is included then I’m SG otherwise I’m DC. There are some questions that I can’t decide of objectively so I listed both options. Which type does it look like I am? Are there others I should consider?
Bones:
1 C,D
2 E
3 A, B
4 B
Flesh:
5 C
6 C
7 C
8 C
9 D
Face:
10 E,C
11 E
12 B
13 B
I would try the style lines for each- but based on these answers I’d lean towards SG
I don’t mean to be rude but the constant insistence you have about height on this is very disheartening. I ALWAYS test a soft classic, and it fits me to a T (I actually am closer to a pure classic, but that doesn’t exist anymore), but I am 5′ 9″. I have none of the facial or body traits for the types that include my height. You should allow for exceptions.
Height is an integral factor to kibbe, and at your height you have vertical in his system. But if you resonate with Soft Classic, go with it!
there is no possible way for a person who is 5″9 to fit into soft classic.
It doesnt matter what your subjective test answers are on the test.
I myself am 5″6 and that elimanates half the options for me. I thought I was a theatrical romantic, but then I realized that the soft dramatic is bascially the same concept overall, but taller with bigger features.
You can be a dramatic, a soft dramatic, a soft natural, flamboyant natural- would be a much better use of your time and energy to figure out which of these four types you best fit into, since these are the only options. it is one of them that will match the most closely of the four, so which one is it?
Dear Gaby, I loveeeeeeee your analysis! Can you elaborate on what do you mean by “moderate flower prints”? Thanks! Pavla ;*
Thank you! Flower prints that aren’t overly large or overly small. But it would depend on the overall head to toe if you choose one that is big or small. Think about it in terms of scale, like a large scale rose print that is very bold would work better for an SD. Hope this helps
Hi! Thank you for this article! Now I know for sure that I’m a soft classic. It’s funny that this is the sort of aesthetics I’ve always been drawn towards anyways. And I’m also a light summer, which colour palette goes nicely with SC, I believe. Thank you for making everything fall into place ?
Thank you so much for all these posts! I’ve been struggling with my wardrobe since… Forever! I took the test and I think I might be a soft classic. These are my answers:
1.Bone structure: 2D, 1B, 1E
2. Body flesh: 3C, 1B, 1D
3. Facial features: 4C, 2A
I am petite (5ft) with broad shoulders, but I do have some waist definition (not waspish); my body is fleshy with some curves but nothing too exaggerated; and my face is not fleshy, at all, but everything is average.
I thought that maybe, the best option for me is to only take into consideration the body part of the test and use the essence system for my face, what do you think?
You could do that, but Kibbe does include essences as well. Based on your B answers and some waist definition I might start with the Soft Natural ID
Casual on soft classics? Like jeans & sneakers/tennis shoes casual? I am a SC but have a foot/ankle issue which means sneakers or boots that can accommodate orthotics & provide support. How can I do this and honor my SC & still look put together?
Hi Gabrielle!This is a helpful guide!Thank you so much!
I’m 5’5. From the quiz it looks like I can be SC or SG.
Which type does it look like I am? Are there others I should consider?
Bone structure: 3A,1C
Body flesh: 3D,2C
Facial features: 4E,1C
This is so incredibly helpful. Thank you for creating this!!!
Hi! I have referenced this post so many times in understanding my SC body type, it’s so helpful. Any advice on how to apply these concepts to a more casual/dressed down SC look? Mom of little ones here, and I do a lot of tshirts these days 😉 thank you!
Hi, I think it’s all about the head to toe- and finding clothes that harmonize with your natural bodies lines. Softer fabrics and balanced hems should help. Jeans or tees are doable too. I think Kibbe is less prescriptive than people think (or i’ve communicated). Just evaluate if the clothes follow your lines and you can get some balance and soft waist definition
@Gabrielle Arruda,
I really appreciate it! Thank you for your tips!
Dear Gabrielle,
First off, thank you for the amazing work.
I have scored SC in the past with majority of C everywhere, but upon taking the test a second time with the aid of a friend, the results were:
1. 2C, 2E
2. 2D, 2B, 1C
3. 5E
I am also 5′. I am small framed but not so defined at the waist. Any guidance would be incredibly appreciated 🙂
Thanks and keep up the great content,
P
Thank you for this! Knew this was me when I read: “You’ve tried to find your style and copy trends, but after countless failed outfits, and an extremely high credit card bill, you accept fashion just isn’t for you. But then, you stumble upon Kibbe.”
Looking at what you’ve put together about SCs, I finally feel seen! Since I was a teen, I’ve known I look best in SC styles, but that didn’t jibe with the 80’s neons and geometric cuts. I’ve always been vaguely ashamed that I don’t gravitate toward trends and prefer a soft feminine look –like I was trying to be too girly- but I look overwhelmed and feel conspicuous in harsh lines. THANK YOU for putting together these style guides. They’re fantastic! Love your site!
Hi! I liked this article but I don’t fully like how it covered like every type of clothing in existence except for shorts. Now that it’s summer I’m back to my life long battle of “why don’t I look good in any shorts?”. It would be great to have some guidelines for shorts! I really want to wear sweat shorts but I don’t know if it will flatter me.
I think it would depend on the overall head-to-toe. Sweat shorts might instinctively be a bit more relaxed than an average SC look, but if you kept the outfit simple it could work. Maybe with a polished cotton tank top, and some classic sandals or sneakers. In terms of length, I think you’ll find anything too short throws off your balance, so maybe mid-thigh might be a good starting point. Soft fabric shorts and cotton shorts could be nice. Ultimately, focus on how you’re using the item (shorts or sweat shorts) in relation to the days activities, and your overall outfit vibe. The trending “old money” aesthetic might be worth investigating as well to see how some polished touches can be added to athletic clothes
It looks like I’m inexistent “just classic” body type, but because I’m muted neutral balance between summer and autumn, I think soft classic will suits me the best… I hope.
Super helpful – thank you!!
Hello love! Great work here, *claps enthusiastically! Quick question- I’m an SC with (what I believe is) a natural style essence. For example, every time I dress up in typical SC clothing it tends to look a little too put on. But, whenever I’m casual (even for more formal events) I look dressy, if that makes sense. I find these two styles very contradictory. Any advice? <3
This is so helpful but I still have a question..
I got mostly A’s for bone, mostly C’s for flesh and mostly D/E for face. I guessed that would pull me to the middle as a true classic but I am 5’ 7” with short torso and long arms so I don’t think that fits.
Some of the soft classic resonates and some of the DC, but super sharp lines make me look weird like a crisp white button down for example.
How should I bridge and what shapes am I looking for?
Sorry if this is a double post, I kept getting kicked out of the browser!
Thank you Gabrielle! Your content is SUPER helpful, but I need some help making my personal “bridge”
I got mostly A’s for Bone, C’s for Flesh, and Ds/Cs for Face (E for big eyes though).
Based on this I think I’d be a soft classic, but I’m 5’7″ with a short torso and long arms, so I thought then that would push me more toward DC. But DC doesn’t completely resonate with me either, I don’t look great in very sharp lines, like a crisp white button down for example.
I guess the ‘bridge’ between would be pure classic but I think the long arms maybe disqualifies me from that. Any thoughts?
At 5 ft 7 according to the latest kibbe vertical you would most likely fall into Dramatic, Flamboyant Natural, or Soft dramatic. I might explore soft dramatic if you feel you have kibbe curve
Could you include more coat examples? Otherwise, the article taught me a lot!
Hi Gabrielle! First, I want to thank you for your incredible content! I have learned so much from you! From your content, along with feedback from the Freely Kibbe page, after 6 months of my Kibbe journey, I’m thinking soft Classic is likely for me. I love the clothing recommendations, but I LOVE experimenting with makeup. I don’t think it necessarily is the most flattering for me, I just have so much fun trying bright colors and interesting shapes with my makeup. Do you have any suggestions for how I can keep my makeup fun and artistic, while also honoring my essence as a soft Classic?
Do you have any Winter shoes/booties/boots recommendations? I feel like every winter and fall outfit is ruined by my shoes. I just can’t seem to find the right style!
I would just go with sleeker boots with possibly a rounded toe. I would try to avoid anything overly chunky or heavy
I am nearly positive I’m a SC. But I am very fat around the middle and all the plus size options specify tucking in/emphasizing the waist I don’t have and not using empire waist dresses to hide away my tummy. I usually wear midi/maxi soft fabric dresses all season because pants give me the ick cuz of my body ? am I able to dress like SC *without* drawing attention to my “waist” (i feel like I’m a rectangle with boobs)
Love your site Gabriella! I am currently trying to create a capsule wardrobe which is why I am trying to type myself. I always type myself as a SC when doing your quiz but others have typed me as a TR (which I can see, too). The only thing is, I have a waspish waist (maybe less so since having my son) and maintain these proportions when I gain weight – unlike it is described SC’s are/do. But I am also not overly delicately boned like a TR. Most definitely am broad in hand and foot.
I am short at 5’3 but don’t necessarily look it although I’m definitely not ‘leggy’. Sitting down at a table with others I look longer however I do have a short torso! As has been commented on by others.
Am I just a Frankenstein of random features?!?
Any perspective on this would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you
I would look at it from a more holistic perspective. One or two features not lining up is normal, and the quiz isn’t really used anymore. I would explore the style lines for SC and for TR and see which one helps you more.
Hello!! I have done a deep dive on your content in the last few days, you are so helpful!! I think I lean towards this (I’m taking your advice and giving myself time to ponder), but I have a very yang nose…is that a deal-breaker? 😉
Not at all! It’s a holistic view
Hi Gabrielle.
What type of booties would you recommend for Soft Classics?
I have a pair of white shin length Dr Martens that doesn’t work for me… how can I style them?
Thank you so much.
Hey Gabrielle,
this was so helpful! Thank you!! I am a total SC, 5’5 and 120 lbs. I am blonde with medium skin tone but I LOVE black. Most of my clothes are black. I think, that is not the best choice? And I have a request: in febuary i will have to attend a gala dinner. Dresscode is formal: Long dress. And in my case of course black. Any recommendations?
Thank you so much!!
I think this depends heavily on your seasonal color analysis if black is “ideal” for you. That being said, black is a “neutral” in our society so there are lots of ways to make it work even if it’s outside your palette. Blacks are ideal for the winter color seasons because they have contrast. Adding makeup to your face will naturally add more contrast (and you can keep it in your color palette). You could also try jewelry that suits your SC body type but also the metal color of your actual season. You can also try a layering piece (coat or shawl or stowl) in your color palette. I’d also focus on the head to toe look and make sure there is balance and flow to it. Hope this helps and have a great time!
Hi! First, thanks for this it was so helpful and amazing! I do have one question though. I love long dresses and skirts, and rarely wear ones that are above my knees. Do you have any recommendations on how to balance out my outfits if I do wear long skirts? (ankle length generally)
Thanks!
I think it’s just about keeping the full look in mind. Longer skirts can be beautiful on an SC< just keep the fabric in mind and the cut more slim (not overly large/relaxed) and perhaps examine where you eye travels when you put together an outfit. This article while not kibbe related might help: https://gabriellearruda.com/what-are-style-lines/
this post killed my soul a little not to be dramatic. i think I just can’t fit into any kibbe type. I’m not so curvy that I need “accommodations” for them and I think I look best with casual less polished hair, and actually more relaxed fits in general. I do not really gravitate towards ANY of this. I have taken the quiz many times (yes, with a photo, that I feel like I am overanalyzing at this point), and I feel like nothing fits me at all. Like, I really don’t have as much fleshiness as this one says, but I’m not a pear shape like Dramatic Classic. I am more angular than this, less fleshy and more delicate boned, but not enough to be Gamine due to my vertical line not being short. I’m really stumped and it’s not very fun.
You don’t have to abide by any of these recommendations, and you should dress how you like. Soft Classics don’t have to dress like this, this is just some very prelimary suggestions from me. Fashion should bring you joy and you should wear what you love and feel best in.
Amazing post, but I’m realizing I got to it a little late!
Would you be updating shopping links at all for SC pieces that are available now?
Thanks so much.
@Gabrielle Arruda, so…i have done more exploring and realized I really wasn’t paying attention enough to your constant reminders here to take this with a grain of salt! And also, Kibbe himself says that to approach things by just forcing yourself in a box is “cold and bloodless” haha. I think I have a strong natural essence (no, i really am not SN, some people seem to think that since I don’t feel gravitated toward looking polished it must mean I am not SC, but after learning more, I am still pretty certain I am SC as I have never had width to my knowledge.) i am having more now trying to find ways to honor at least SOME of these without throwing away my “essence” and personality. like someone else said above, i feel too done up if i abide fully by these recommendations, but hey, if i want to elevate my look, i know how to do that! sorry for being such a bummer in the comments lol. perhaps many people feel this way, but it’s hard to feel like it isn’t prescriptive when there are so many AVOIDs and insistence that you must look elegant and refined simply because your body has symmetry and curve. but, i’ve learned a bit more now, and am having more fun <3 much love.
I think it’s helpful to post how you’re feeling and that you determined how you want to approach your style moving forward! Thank you for sharing, not a bummer at all!
Love your posts…BUT…now that I know I am a soft classic and I also know that I have a figure 8…which is now “pulling focus”…how do I handle all this at once? Change fabrics?? Cuts?? All of my skirts are being changed to pencil now.. figure 8 it is a distraction now that I’ve lost weight and can really see it versus the rectangle. Any ideas?
Hi
I’m searching all over for tips about SC shoes. All I find is great collections of shoes for other body types… Sure, there are a few guidelines but open toe and slingbacks doesn’t work all year round and definitely not on all surfaces. Can you do a piece on shoes and boots that work in different situations and different kinds of weather?
Best regards
Therese
How does Soft Classic blend with a pear shape? Do I need to figure out where they intersect, or can I just go with the SC recommendations?
Thanks!
Hello, I find your content very insight- and helpful. I’m on a style-journey myself for a while now, so thank you very much for your effort. I’m still learning to discerne stuff I like (visually) from outfits that actually serve me and are flattering. Especially when it comes to energy, I have to be more aware of what actually belongs to me (energy wise) and what is just a lovely image idea I’d like to entertain. That’s a bit of challenge, to be honest. Sometimes I just forget about this and buy something spontaneously just to find out, that the style energy doesn’t match my authentic vibe.
So, to make a long story short, I think I’m a classic. Probably soft classic. So I took a look at the outfit recommendations. And I feel like, sometimes they are bit off and not actually soft classic. Like the golden slippers in the first Betty Draper panel. They are way too chunky and flamboyant for SC. Sometimes the pieces lean more towards dramatic energy or towards romantic energy – IMHO. My best advise is to look at Kirsten Dunst or Naomi Watts. They almost always get it right.
But please correct me, if I’m wrong. It really feels a bit like a labyrinth…
I think Kirsten and Naomi are great SC icons. But I also think it’s more about the complete look and balance/energy. I personally think a lot of pieces can work for an SC like those gold shoes, and that one item won’t make or break an outfit generally. But, they might not match YOUR energy, which is think is incredibly important to be in touch with. IN terms of shopping strategy, you might find this video helpful:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urob8frW54E
Hi Gabrielle, Great post!!
Would you have any suggestions for retailers that lean towards the Soft Classic aesthetic?
Good question
What brands do you lean towards for SC? I’m looking for budget-friendly options that still are good quality
Hi,
I think SC is spot on for me and can even identify some styles from your post, that I’ve gravitated towards in the past. Here’s my problem – I’ve been recently diagnosed with medical conditions that require me to wear compression socks. The socks end just below the knee.
All of my pants/jeans used to end at the ankle because that looked flattering on me, but now I don’t know what to wear because these socks are so ugly. Any suggestions?
I live in Arizona, it’s very hot, I’ve resorted to athletic shorts, shirts, and sneakers with the compression socks for summer. It’s not a great look but it’s all I could come up with.
I’m a stay at home mom, so my daily clothing is casual. Also, I feel like maxi dresses or skirts really overwhelm my body, so while they solve the compression sock issue, they’re not very flattering.
Thank you for any help!
Hello Gabrielle,
just returned to this helpful post, as I am a soft classic.
Question: what do you think about gathered waists in either -pants or skirts for us?
I thought it would mean waist definition and therefore fit well, but somehow I am not altogether enthusiastic, and wondering if that is because the gathering is not ‘moderate’ enough?
Many thnks for your thoughts!!
I think it might depend on the fabric, how deep the gathers appear, and what else is paired with it. A heavy fabric with deep gathers might pull too much focus for a SC